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jeff flake is supported by jon kyl anjohn mccain. carmona is for obama's health care law. flake's against obama's health care law. >> joining me now is dr. richard carmona, democratic candidate for senate in arizona and the former surgeon general of the united states. ea hyore on "the you ed show" tonight. i'll go right to it. health care is in your wheelhouse. you are the expert. he's going after you, your opponent's going after you on obama care. but you have been critical of health care general on both sides. e oundal this? >> well, as surgeon general, ed, i was very career, and i still feel the same way, as a physician, as a professor, when i responsibility for the nation's health. it was a real problem that our nation didn't have a system that provided access to health care for all, and we need a robust busine plato bableo sut . so that's where i stand and i'll never waiver from the fact that i believe that every american should have access to a basic set of health care benefits. >> well, you've got a lot of senior citizens in the state of arizona. how do you play wit
jeff flake is supported by jon kyl anjohn mccain. carmona is for obama's health care law. flake's against obama's health care law. >> joining me now is dr. richard carmona, democratic candidate for senate in arizona and the former surgeon general of the united states. ea hyore on "the you ed show" tonight. i'll go right to it. health care is in your wheelhouse. you are the expert. he's going after you, your opponent's going after you on obama care. but you have been critical of...
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the president had the one on one with john mccain in his last debates. is there any similarity before we talk about the differences, there any similarity in their style that you've noted? >> well, i think both of them in the past have benefited by the very fact that the people they were debating with often seen themselves to be a little overroute, to seem to be caught up in things and not quite under control. and i think the test tonight is, that both of them will face somebody that's usually pretty controlled in the way they come at things. the last time that president obama was in debates like this, it was his confidence, his -- in a sense quiet reserve in some ways in contrast to an excitability that we saw in mccain. other than the absence of emotion can be very devastating as it with you to dukakis in the debate against bush. part is how the real character comes through in terms of suggesting their ability to be presidential. >> and what do you -- >> shown to be. >> what do you see as the major difference in the two men that could be that revealing
the president had the one on one with john mccain in his last debates. is there any similarity before we talk about the differences, there any similarity in their style that you've noted? >> well, i think both of them in the past have benefited by the very fact that the people they were debating with often seen themselves to be a little overroute, to seem to be caught up in things and not quite under control. and i think the test tonight is, that both of them will face somebody that's...
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the first 2008 presidential debate between the president and john mccain got seven times the audience of the highest rated 2012 republican primary debate. think about that. seven times. past debates show romney and obama have to worry about cut away shots that are less than flattering. in the past both candidates have come across as irritable, patronizing or disengaged. this was chris christie's advice to the candidates yesterday. >> what you do is go out and be yourself. and people either like it or don't. if they don't, they are going to vote for somebody else. not a tragedy. no one dies. >> finally speaking of debates, there was a barn burner last night in massachusetts where scott brown and democratic challenger elizabeth warren faced off in a debate. moderated by nbc's david gregory. it was tense from the outset. >> if you're going to comment on my record, i would at least have you refer to it -- excuse me. i'm not a student in your classroom. please let me respond, okay? >> that was an echo of a quip brown used in 2010 when he told martha kwaurkly i'm not in your courtroom, i'm
the first 2008 presidential debate between the president and john mccain got seven times the audience of the highest rated 2012 republican primary debate. think about that. seven times. past debates show romney and obama have to worry about cut away shots that are less than flattering. in the past both candidates have come across as irritable, patronizing or disengaged. this was chris christie's advice to the candidates yesterday. >> what you do is go out and be yourself. and people...
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president obama's last debate was against senator john mccain in the fall of 2008. while governor romney has had nearly two dozen debates during that gop primary. the obama campaign says the president's strategy is focused on shorter, crisper answers. the romney strategy, as reported in "the new york times" has the governor memorizing a series of zingers to try to hit the president with. let's bring in our "news nation" political panel for this monday. democratic strategist chris, national radio host michael, and also an msnbc contributor, and villa skype as you can tell from our shot there, steve, conservative radio show host. you have the visual disadvantage because you're skype. i'll let you start off first here. let me play what paul ryan, completely opposite of what chris christie said this sunday. his assessment of the debates. let's play ryan, please. >> i don't think one event is going to make or break this campaign. look, president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> it's no secret, steve, you
president obama's last debate was against senator john mccain in the fall of 2008. while governor romney has had nearly two dozen debates during that gop primary. the obama campaign says the president's strategy is focused on shorter, crisper answers. the romney strategy, as reported in "the new york times" has the governor memorizing a series of zingers to try to hit the president with. let's bring in our "news nation" political panel for this monday. democratic strategist...
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that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist attack that killed four americans is an inconvenient truth for a president that claims to be destroying al-qaeda. but it's not too much to ask why the administration has taken so long to state what appeared obvious on what really happened on september 11th, 2012. we're a back with our panel. so given all that we've learned in the last couple of weeks. how big a security failure was that attack on the consulate? >> it was far bigger than this administration is willing to admit. we knew the security situation in benghazi was getting out of control. there were attack on the british consulate which was closed and there with a attacks on convoy and attacks on the u.s. consulate, too. there were reports out of benghazi. u.s. issued a statement in august warning americans not to travel there, telling them there is probably bombings and a assassinations. >> paul: we also know that they called for the reveng
that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist attack that killed four americans is an inconvenient truth for a president that claims to be destroying al-qaeda. but it's not too much to ask why the administration has taken so long to state what appeared obvious on what really happened on september 11th, 2012. we're a back with our panel. so given all...
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senator mccain was stumping for mcmahon. she spent $50 million on her last race in 2010. this year she spent over $16 million. part of the first generation of self-financed women candidates. i wonder if this is the start of parody, more to come. >> i find this to be one of the most interesting. if not because i think there are a lot of parallels to what's going on in the presidential campaign. you have a successful ceo running a business with a colorful, if not checkered history, running against an incumbent who does than have the best track record. it seems to be playing out much the same way the presidential election is. can mcmahon divide the voters in connecticut who would be for obama but willing to vote for a republican senator? >> that was a fascinating analysis. north dakota, republicans thought they had this in the bag when kent conrad decided he was not going to run for re-election. has heidi heitkamp's liableability making this a horse race? >> she has issues that are a big concern. it's got a ton of republicans nervous. what republicans thought might be an eas
senator mccain was stumping for mcmahon. she spent $50 million on her last race in 2010. this year she spent over $16 million. part of the first generation of self-financed women candidates. i wonder if this is the start of parody, more to come. >> i find this to be one of the most interesting. if not because i think there are a lot of parallels to what's going on in the presidential campaign. you have a successful ceo running a business with a colorful, if not checkered history, running...
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he criticized mccain and pushed for romney in 2008. he says he is too old to do it now. >> here is the deal, see -- >> i thought he already died. >> stephanie: you did not think that. >> i did think that yeah. >> stephanie: he is alive -- >> stockdale is dead. i know that for a fact. >> where am i? why am i here? >> stephanie: jennifer in michigan you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi, jen. >> hi how are you doing? >> stephanie: good go ahead. >> caller: i'm a very devout christian, and you were talk about some of these religious leaders and conservative talk show hosts that believe in essence that god is going to help romney win, and i just want to know what crack they have been smoking, because i know the bible, and it clearly states that to love your neighbor as yourself, which goes against all conservative policies and it also says that we have free will and free choice. so god is not going to be getting involved in the election. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: i also wanted to say that i'm a catholic and usually the catholic
he criticized mccain and pushed for romney in 2008. he says he is too old to do it now. >> here is the deal, see -- >> i thought he already died. >> stephanie: you did not think that. >> i did think that yeah. >> stephanie: he is alive -- >> stockdale is dead. i know that for a fact. >> where am i? why am i here? >> stephanie: jennifer in michigan you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi, jen. >> hi how are you doing? >>...
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i agree with what's said including your points about mccain. if romney ran in '08 as he is now, obviously he did run in '08 and it didn't work out with him. one day we blame romney, and we've seen a lot of blame for romney throughout the campaign. one day blaming the polling and liberal media. i think that's a stretch. when do we look at the ideology and the difficult sell that is for the american people. when you have a party where the conventional wisdom is that this is a party that is here for the rich to serve the rich and the corporations, that's a very difficult sell. i don't know that chris christie, regular guy, could sell that better. i don't know if rick santorum can sell that better than what we've seen already. >> well, obviously, there's 39, 38 days to go. where are we sf? 39. >> 30 states already votes, though. that's the other interesting thing in this. we have more than half the country is on you there casting ballots. we haven't had a debate yet. the 2013 presidential debate commission. let's schedule one before a ballot has be
i agree with what's said including your points about mccain. if romney ran in '08 as he is now, obviously he did run in '08 and it didn't work out with him. one day we blame romney, and we've seen a lot of blame for romney throughout the campaign. one day blaming the polling and liberal media. i think that's a stretch. when do we look at the ideology and the difficult sell that is for the american people. when you have a party where the conventional wisdom is that this is a party that is here...
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. >> he's right even republican senators like john mccain, lindsey graham saying we don't want defense cuts going into place. maybe we can talk about taxes. why? because they're going to do a tiny little trick with attaches and president obama has already said he's going to cut corporate taxes from 35% to 28%. in the end where are they going to get the money? from social security. now even david koch of koch industries is saying: >> why? because he's going to trick you. hey, here's a little tax increase wink wink. now give me your social security money. that is a deal i am not interested in. finally, david axelrod when asked about the social security deal had this interesting response. >> mark, i'll tell you what, when you get elected to the united states senate and sit at that table, we'll have -- this is not the time. we're not going to have that discussion right now. >> why doesn't he want to have that discussion about social security wouldn't it be the easiest thick for a politician to say under no circumstances will we cut social security. 84% of americans agree with that. if you'
. >> he's right even republican senators like john mccain, lindsey graham saying we don't want defense cuts going into place. maybe we can talk about taxes. why? because they're going to do a tiny little trick with attaches and president obama has already said he's going to cut corporate taxes from 35% to 28%. in the end where are they going to get the money? from social security. now even david koch of koch industries is saying: >> why? because he's going to trick you. hey, here's...
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that was senator mccain's judgment. >> the president also has this tenacity or tendency to ramble. in one democratic debate he appeared to be sleeping. the biggest pitfalls you would recommend that the president needs to avoid? >> i think actually, the rest of us may be sleeping when we watch this debate tomorrow night. however, i think the thing obama will have to work on, in his debate preps, they've been force-feeding him that old clip of hillary, don't do anything like that again. there is the point you just made about speaking in a professorial way. these are not lectures. if he can convey a sense of relaxation that he is not terrified to be there and appreciates the chance to make his case to the american people. those things will work well in his favor. >> for those people that tuned in during the republican primaries, they saw mitt romney being trial by fire, so to speak. sometimes came across thin skinned. >> rick, again, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> it's time for you to tell the truth. >> i get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work. i get 60 seconds.
that was senator mccain's judgment. >> the president also has this tenacity or tendency to ramble. in one democratic debate he appeared to be sleeping. the biggest pitfalls you would recommend that the president needs to avoid? >> i think actually, the rest of us may be sleeping when we watch this debate tomorrow night. however, i think the thing obama will have to work on, in his debate preps, they've been force-feeding him that old clip of hillary, don't do anything like that...
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. >> senator mccain's campaign actually said, and i quote, "if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose." >> so the romney ad tried to make it sound like president obama said this thing thate he qti it to say that he disagreed with that statement. i mean, there are lots of little lies in politics, little exaggerations, but that's really big, really bad lie. and it was their first ad against president obama. and so, naturally,itt romney got skewered for this, for viy blunt lie.irst gener what did the romney campaign do about the whopper in that ad? did they correct it or remove as mitt romney now says has always been his campaign policy? no, they didn't it. that ad is still up on his campaign web page. not only did the romney campaign dinot remover coect at ad, romney defended it just as it was getting all attention for being a lie, remember? >> there was no hidden effort on the part of our campaign. it was instead to point out what's sauce for the goose is now sauce r the gander. >> sces go, ever. but mitt romney didn't correct or remove the ad that had the lie in it about
. >> senator mccain's campaign actually said, and i quote, "if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose." >> so the romney ad tried to make it sound like president obama said this thing thate he qti it to say that he disagreed with that statement. i mean, there are lots of little lies in politics, little exaggerations, but that's really big, really bad lie. and it was their first ad against president obama. and so, naturally,itt romney got skewered for this,...
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you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their debt to society with blood literally. it's made up of mostly working people, most of that 47% are working americans, working middle class, working poor. >> hard working who earn less than $30,000 a year. >> or even $40,000 or $50,000 and many of those -- many of that 47% is made up of seniors. you know, this network is going to have a new poll later today that's going to show the race tightening and the national numbers but not in the battleground states i think. one of the big reasons for that, one of the big underreported reasons for that is how the romney/ryan ticket has offended seniors. we've talked about how this ticket offended women, african-americans, hispanics. the big story is how they have offended seniors and how seniors have gone from the romney/ryan camp into the obama camp largely i think because of the ryan plan on medicare, and so that -- the 47% was poorly answered by ryan, but an equal weight around this campaign's neck is that medicare plan which is tur
you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their debt to society with blood literally. it's made up of mostly working people, most of that 47% are working americans, working middle class, working poor. >> hard working who earn less than $30,000 a year. >> or even $40,000 or $50,000 and many of those -- many of that 47% is made up of seniors. you know, this network is going to have a new poll later today that's going to...
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that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist
that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist
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i want to pick up on what john mccain and i were talking about. there's back and forth now about why did this administration -- why did it take them until friday after a september 11th attack in libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that it was terrorist-involved. john mccain said it doesn't pass the smell test or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. your reaction? >> well, first of all, candy, as you know, the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened, but when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration and you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believes, this was -- this is being thoroughly investigated. >> it wasn't planned. it was part of this tape. all that stuff. >> as a director of national intelligence said on friday, that was the original information that was given to us. what we don't need is a president or administration that shoots first and asks questions later. governor romney le
i want to pick up on what john mccain and i were talking about. there's back and forth now about why did this administration -- why did it take them until friday after a september 11th attack in libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that it was terrorist-involved. john mccain said it doesn't pass the smell test or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. your reaction? >> well, first of all, candy, as you know, the...
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that was not a game changing debate between senator obama and senator mccain. >> not the way it was during the primary races. one of the things that you learned from that moment with benson and quayle, is they have been watching dan quayle, this young, some would say not fully prepared senator, and not prepared for the national stage, and watching how he kept comparing himself to john f. kennedy to show that kennedy was also young and they were ready to pounce with that. >> these guys have been on both sides known each other, going to be their opponents, reviewing individual yes videotapes, studied about them, forgetting about whether mitt romney has zingers or not they have some prepared lines ready but more important what overall kind of meta impression is that people get of these people. for mitt romney the challenge is great. a lot of work to do on the stage and one of the most fundamental things americans still have fundamental doubts about whether they see him as a potential president. apart from whether he can prosecute a case against obama he has this bigger thing to do, solve a pr
that was not a game changing debate between senator obama and senator mccain. >> not the way it was during the primary races. one of the things that you learned from that moment with benson and quayle, is they have been watching dan quayle, this young, some would say not fully prepared senator, and not prepared for the national stage, and watching how he kept comparing himself to john f. kennedy to show that kennedy was also young and they were ready to pounce with that. >> these...
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this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of represents and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with knowledge of the matter. if romney does well, that money could come back. >>> new jersey's governor, chris christie the current front runner for the presidential nomination 2016 has decided his job is to state the obvious. >> it's a huge night. we've had a bad couple of weeks and we want to turn this around and if you want to turn it around you've got to perform on the stage. they try to say the president is not that good a debater or mitt romney is a little scared of the president. those are the professional consultants and politicians who get paid to spin you guys. that's not what my job is. it's a big n
this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of represents and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with...
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hillary clinton said the same thing and so did john mccain. all three made the connection between thimerosol with a trace of mercury in it. that's been debunked. >> again, you're talking about dabbling in some theories, and completely grant you that it's troubling when you talk about people on the left that pushed this idea of a vaccine/autism link. that's troubling and needs to be called out. when you talk about as a party, mitt romney's in his acceptance speech at republican convention mocked the idea of combating climate change. he talked about obama promising to slow the rise of the oceans and heal the planet. he mocked it, and it was a huge applause line. you have a republican party platform using scare quotes to talk about climate change. you have republicans in major positions of influence in the congress saying it's a complete hoax. that's totally out of whack with the kind of hostility of science you see overall on the left. >> so my response to that would be that, see, you're focusing more on the republican party and the democratic p
hillary clinton said the same thing and so did john mccain. all three made the connection between thimerosol with a trace of mercury in it. that's been debunked. >> again, you're talking about dabbling in some theories, and completely grant you that it's troubling when you talk about people on the left that pushed this idea of a vaccine/autism link. that's troubling and needs to be called out. when you talk about as a party, mitt romney's in his acceptance speech at republican convention...
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advantage for john mccain. the polls that we see coming out of pennsylvania show their bromley is not doing any better. in some polls, he is doing worse. he is making very little progress. the state is looking very similar in terms of the demographics and how they translate into political support. the same thing applies to the geographical distribution. it is stephanie looking like brigitte is that you're looking like an advantage for obama in pat -- is definitely looking like an advantage for obama in pennsylvania. the look at the geographical pattern of the vote, 40 4% of the vote -- 44%, there's not going on for romney. they thought they could do it in wisconsin. the problem is it is twofold. if you look at the level of demographic change that is taking place in wisconsin, it is quite startling. you have three point increase in the share of minority eligible voters. a four. among white college graduates and a seven. decline among non-white college voters. it goes against what is and the interest of the romne
advantage for john mccain. the polls that we see coming out of pennsylvania show their bromley is not doing any better. in some polls, he is doing worse. he is making very little progress. the state is looking very similar in terms of the demographics and how they translate into political support. the same thing applies to the geographical distribution. it is stephanie looking like brigitte is that you're looking like an advantage for obama in pat -- is definitely looking like an advantage for...
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you contrasted that with the mccain campaign which didn't have as much enthusiasm and didn't have as much of a strategy involving early voting. in fact, it wasn't until the week prior to the election that mccain and palin started even mentioning early voting within their stump speeches. romney's mentioned it already. so romney's doing much better than mccain did in 2008 and he has ample resources and he has enthusiasm on his side, too. so 2012 is not going to look like 2008. in fact, most elections that we see, more republicans tend to vote early. now, there's some variations among the states. so that's not universally true. but if we look nationally usually it's more republicans that vote early than democrats. >> ifill: demographically as we saw judy talking to young voters in ohio, are they more likely to be the people who take advantage of it or are the faces different? >> young people in colleges, often that's the only choice that they have to vote is by an absentee ballots because they're not-- they're far from home and so they need that opportunity to vote an absentee ballot an
you contrasted that with the mccain campaign which didn't have as much enthusiasm and didn't have as much of a strategy involving early voting. in fact, it wasn't until the week prior to the election that mccain and palin started even mentioning early voting within their stump speeches. romney's mentioned it already. so romney's doing much better than mccain did in 2008 and he has ample resources and he has enthusiasm on his side, too. so 2012 is not going to look like 2008. in fact, most...
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. >> senator mccain's campaign actuallyaid, and i quote, "if on w g tseing about the >> so the romney ad tried to make it sound like president obama said this thing that he was quoting someone else saying, and he was quoting it to say that he disagreed with that statement. i mean, ere are lots of little lies in politics, little exaggerations, but that's real bieabae. and it was their first ad against president obama. and so, naturally, mitt romney got skewered for this, for building his first general election ad on a really obviously blunt lie. what did the romney campaign do about e whopper in that ad? did they correct it or remove as mi romney now says has always been hisampaign pocy? atisllon didn't it. campaign web page. not only did the romney campaign did not remove or correct that ad, romney defended it just as it was getting all attention for being a lie, remember? >> there was no hidden effort on the partf our campaign. it was instead to point out what's sauce for the goose is now sauce for the gander. t ry 'torrect ooses, what. or remove the ad that had the lie in it about w
. >> senator mccain's campaign actuallyaid, and i quote, "if on w g tseing about the >> so the romney ad tried to make it sound like president obama said this thing that he was quoting someone else saying, and he was quoting it to say that he disagreed with that statement. i mean, ere are lots of little lies in politics, little exaggerations, but that's real bieabae. and it was their first ad against president obama. and so, naturally, mitt romney got skewered for this, for...
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if you look back at president barack obama versus john mccain, it was barack, four years ago. not that much as changed in the state of ohio despite the fact that john cage has taken over. >> well, i think romney has a tough road, and unless he wins ohio he almost mathematically cannot become president. he is right that unemployment, it's down in large measure because the president help save the auto industry and 35,000 jobs. fundamentally what is going on in ohio is what is going on another battleground states which is that mitt romney is a fundamentally flawed candidate. the middle class voters -- cheryl: how does he fought? >> rejecting because his basic assumption that tax cuts for the very wealthy will somehow trickle down to the middle-class . people are not buying it. going to create 12 million jobs without telling anybody how he's going to do it at the same time turns around and says there is almost half of the country that thinks he should not be president. cheryl: he has given us some specifics and we need to read it here more on his tax plans, but at the same time he
if you look back at president barack obama versus john mccain, it was barack, four years ago. not that much as changed in the state of ohio despite the fact that john cage has taken over. >> well, i think romney has a tough road, and unless he wins ohio he almost mathematically cannot become president. he is right that unemployment, it's down in large measure because the president help save the auto industry and 35,000 jobs. fundamentally what is going on in ohio is what is going on...
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that was the counter to john mccain. and they haven't done that. and i -- is going to be diffult for them to do that in the next couple weeks. and going into that last debate whe they're going to be goi be an issue, they're going to need to frame that up before they get there or it's going to be difficult for them to have much of a debate among, no, i'm better, i'm worse. >> i feel like we're in an unsustainable spot. n'be forced into the politics. i feel like reckoning is coming on this in political terms. john stanton, "buzz feed's" d.c. bureau chief. you do great work. >> pleasure to be here. >>> all right. are you a college student? do you know ancollege yavy e ow college students will vote this year if they vote? a bunch of political vigilantes who know how college students are likely to vote this year have figured out how to stop students from doing it. it is a very simple strategy and it is very stupid, and that's next. >>> i waited, i voted. >>> i waited, i vod. acolle, twanot urers. nall nhter. >> i'm willing to wait as long as it takes fo
that was the counter to john mccain. and they haven't done that. and i -- is going to be diffult for them to do that in the next couple weeks. and going into that last debate whe they're going to be goi be an issue, they're going to need to frame that up before they get there or it's going to be difficult for them to have much of a debate among, no, i'm better, i'm worse. >> i feel like we're in an unsustainable spot. n'be forced into the politics. i feel like reckoning is coming on this...
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barack obama lost the senior vote to john mccain in florida by eight points in 2008. so for the president to be doing well in that traditional republican voting block is a danger sign for romney. strategists for both parties in florida agree obama is ahead in the state and the battle over medicare is helping make inroads with seniors. as nancy reported, the president is also doing better with blue collar white voters in ohio and doing better on the economy of the economy. whose happening is mitt romney is having to play defense with his own voting group. the time he has to spend shoring them up is time he's not spending getting swing voters. >> pelley: john, polls that are taken about this point in september sometimes predict the winner and sometimes they don't. in 2008, we had obama over mccain at about this point, but in the year 2000, we had gore over bush about this point. how predictive are these polls six weeks out. >> reporter: if we go all the way back to 1952, eisenhower's first election, the vast majority of the time the candidates who was ahead of the polls
barack obama lost the senior vote to john mccain in florida by eight points in 2008. so for the president to be doing well in that traditional republican voting block is a danger sign for romney. strategists for both parties in florida agree obama is ahead in the state and the battle over medicare is helping make inroads with seniors. as nancy reported, the president is also doing better with blue collar white voters in ohio and doing better on the economy of the economy. whose happening is...
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in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifiable position on afghanistan. they have been unwilling and unable to hold up that side of debate and so regardless of what it means for the candidates as a country we are deprived of a national discussion about a war we are in. 70,000 american families having skin in the game right now. we have -- that's part of the reason i'm looking forward to the debates. some ways sort of a post-policy campaign. and you can't do that in a debate, at least unless the debate is really bad. >> this is -- this is billed as a domestic policy debate, but -- and there are so many ways this is also domestic policy,
in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifiable...